Purchasing Skymaster Parts
by Ernie Martin


This logic tree (full size shown later) allows you to find Skymaster parts at the best possible price. Prepared by the author for presentation at the April 23-27, 2003 Skymaster fly-in and meeting in Nashville, it was delivered at that meeting for the author by Larry Bowdish and then delivered by the author at the April 21-24, 2004 Skymaster fly-in and meeting in Oklahoma City (see group picture below). Although the logic tree may seem complicated, you will find it easy and I'll help you along the way. This page also includes names and contact info for suppliers.

Owners who vigorously look for the best price on parts can substantially reduce their maintenance costs. Savings on a repair can be 50% of the whole job (parts and labor).

Some of the narrative delivered at the presentations -- but not all -- is included here; therefore, you should use the information on this page only as a reference and strictly follow the recommendations of your A&P mechanic.

Before getting into the subject of buying parts, let me deviate for a moment and offer some thoughts on choosing your A&P mechanic. He or she is the key to cost-effective maintenance of your Skymaster. Aside from choosing one who is knowledgeable and competent, you should strive to seek a mechanic with the additional characteristics listed below -- and once you find such a mechanic, befriend and pamper him/her. Here's the list:

  • Price competitive. Rely less on hourly rates and more on the recommendations of other aircraft owners for a mechanic whose jobs are consistently reasonable in price. A mechanic with a $30 rate is no bargain if he/she takes twice as long as other mechanics or is dishonest and pads the hours.
  • Smart. This is different form "knowledgeable". Often, problems are hard to diagnose and require an intelligent mechanic.
  • Likes Skymasters. A mechanic who hates to work on Skymasters is a problem -- it's hard to get him/her to work on your aircraft and he/she may add a "hassle" factor to your bill. Find one who knows the aircraft and likes to work on them.
  • Lets you help. Last but not least, find a mechanic who will let you look for parts and help with maintenance (remove inspection plates, etc).
OK, on to parts. The image below is your road map (click here to see image, then use your browser's "Back" button to return to this text). Starting at the top, work through the logic tree, trying to get to the left-most purchasing block possible (green is better than yellow, yellow better than red, etc). Your co-pilot is your mechanic, making sure he/she agrees with each decision you make.

Before you start you need three things. First, get the part number from the Illustrated Parts Catalog (IPC). This is something you should own if your mechanic doesn't have one; Trade-A-Plane display advertisers have them for sale for about $80 and they sometimes appear in eBay for less. Second, see if there is a superseding (newer) part number by calling your favorite Cessna dealer (mine is Yingling). Finally, ask the dealer his price for the part. Obviously, you'll use this price as a reference, seeking substantial reductions for used parts.

Your first decision on the logic tree (click here), is whether to buy new or used. Most items can and should be bought used. Some, however, should be bought new and often these should be obvious to you; they include batteries, tires, spark plugs, wires, cables, bearings, motor mounts, seals (such as gaskets and O-rings), windshields, etc. So, generally, you will be buying used most of the time and new only by exception. Here is one criterion for deciding: buy used if the item will give you roughly the same lifetime as a new item at a substantial cost savings. Notice that the item need not have the same lifetime. Instead, it must give you roughly the same lifetime. So, suppose a used rudder will give you 50 years of life while a new one will give you 100 years. Who cares. You are not going to own it 50 years, so as far as you are concerned, both will give you the same lifetime.

If you choose to buy used, the next decision on the logic tree (click here) is between "as-is" (also called "as-removed" or "repairable") and overhauled/serviceable. Your decision should generally be based on this: if your A&P is authorized to service the item, then buy it "as-is", otherwise buy it in overhauled (OHD) or serviceable condition. There are, of course, exceptions. If your propeller is sent to be overhauled and one blade "scraps-out" (meaning that the shop has determined that it cannot be repaired), then, assuming that the shop doesn't have one to sell you, try to find the blade "as-is" for delivery to the propeller shop.

Once you decide what to do and start looking for an item, don't give up if a source doesn't have it. Ask that same source if he/she knows where you can find it. (Don Nieser at Commodore is a Skymaster specialist, so he is most likely to have it or to know who does.)

When you are looking for as-is or as-removed parts, several sources are cited in the green box, but check Trade-A-Plane classified ads for other yards which are currently parting-out Skymasters (these ads can be found at the end of the Cessna classifieds under "Cessna Miscellaneous"). As-is parts can be bought at 70-40% off list. Although all parts to be used on your aircraft -- even new ones -- should be checked by your A&P before installation, this is particularly true for as-is or as-removed parts, and you should err on the side of rejection if there is any question; thus, the policy on returnability of such parts is a key issue when you deal with used-parts suppliers.

If you need overhauled parts ("overhauled" and "serviceable" are often identical terms), then you fall in the yellow box. Check Trade-A-Plane display ads for overhaulers. Savings here can range between 30 and 50% off list.

OK, but what if you need new parts? As you can see on the logic tree (click here), you should first look for PMA parts (the orange box). PMA stands for "Parts Manufacturing Approval". These suppliers have FAA authority to build and sell new replacement parts which are not Cessna. Typically, a PMA part will cost around 30% off list, but there can be wide variations (some as much as 60% off, while others may cost near list price because they are better than the original Cessna).

Several PMA sources are listed in the figure. A recent addition not shown there is Owen Bell's Aviation Enterprises, which has cowl flap motors, and many fiberglass or carbon fiber replacements for plastic or metal parts (prop spinners, strut fairings, battery box, glare shield, gear doors, window frames, etc.). This firm also sells modifications for the Skymaster, including wing extensions which increase gross weight, auxiliary fuel tanks, air conditioning, etc.

If you can't find new PMA parts, you're still not forced to buy expensive parts from a Cessna dealer. You can try to find them in the surplus market (the pinkish box). If you're buying seals, check for currency of seals (cure date) and that the sealed packaging is undisturbed -- this is always a good idea, but especially when you are buying from surplus suppliers.

Your last resort, but often an unavoidable one, is to buy new parts from a Cessna dealer (the red box). Yingling is my favorite Cessna dealer for its discount, great customer service and immediate shipment directly from Cessna's vast stock (they're both in Wichita). One drawback, since they have little stock of their own, is that for small items (bolts, etc.) their minimum order is too large (e.g., you need 2 but they won't sell you less than 25). In those instances, you want to find a Cessna dealer with its own sizeable inventory; I have found El Cajon Aircraft Supply to be a good choice.

The suppliers identified in the image or mentioned above are listed below with phone numbers. The author has previously found these suppliers reputable. It is only a partial list and other reputable suppliers exist.



Contact for suppliers listed above:
Aircraft Spruce -- 877-477-7823 (www.aircraft-spruce.com)
Air Salvage of Dallas -- 800-336-6399
Atlanta Air Salvage -- 800-237-8831
Aviation Enterprises -- 615-865-1802 (owen.bell@juno.com)
Chief Aircraft -- 800-447-3408 (www.chiefaircraft.com)
Commodore -- 405-722-4079 (nieser.02.337parts@juno.com)
El Cajon Aircraft Supply -- 800-888-3227 (www.elcajonaircraft.com)
J.T. Evans -- 800-421-1729
Plane Plastics -- 580-327-1565 (www.planeplastics.com)
Precision Hose Tech. -- 800-331-5946 (www.aircrafthose.com)
Preferred Airparts -- 800-433-0814 (www.preferredairparts.com)
SVA -- 530-279-2111
Yingling Aircraft -- 800-854-2647 (www.yinglingaircraft.com)


Group Picture of Skymaster fly-in and meeting in Oklahoma City on April 21-24, 2004



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